UPDATE: Well color me impressed, not a moment goes by that Jeffery isn't mentioning my name and sending me hits. Maybe its love? Since he banned me he has mentioned me in several posts that are the sort of cute little things that cute little people put up and nudge each other about. Must have cut close to the quick there eh Jeffery? That creepy man has got you talking about him an awful lot, are you a stalker type?

Noticed that you still have not been able to explain why its ok for you to screw up facts, get hysterical "Thanks to his reporting, we believed the absolute worst about the federal response. We believed the city had descended into anarchy—with crime and suffering the rule." but its not ok for Shepard Smith to highlight the plight of those on the overpass. In addition even in your hysterical rant you get it wrong, indeed the city did descend into anarchy with crime and suffering the rule. Its illustrative that pointing out those facts to you got me banned. Being fact checked can be painful eh?


Jeffery Goldstein is upset...oh me. He got involved in a debate with me, got his ass handed to him and now has decided to take his marbles home and not play anymore. I am banned...probably for the better but strange that a person would deliberately call me out in a post going so far as to ask his intellectual minions to "pile on", respond to me in his comments by calling me names then decide after a post that shows how sloppy he is to ban me. Not being an intellectual, like so many obviously are, over at that bastion of free thought, did I mention that Jeffery advocates changing peoples posts to make fun of them, careful of posting stuff that gets him angry, I didn't realize thats the way debates are won. Imagine how easy the Presidential Debates would have been for Kerry if he had just used Jeffery's technique, "Fuckwit I am leaving". . .all the intellectual pundits would have clapped their hands politely and declared him the winner.

Course he is a "Star" of the blogsphere....harrumph.

Jeffery offering his version of a debate:
You’re a worldclass fuckwit. And if either one of us is interested in professing his cleverness, that honor clearly goes to you.
Congrats. You’re banned.

Here is the post that I would have posted in his comments section were he man enough to finish a debate HE started. Pansy.

Awww gee Jeffery you started it back up not me, don't start fights you aren't willing to finish. You are the one who declared that everyone should pile on! Funny that, after I showed up, no one was very interested in "Piling On".

And the name calling, Jeffery, you really have to work on that temper. Stamping your diddle feet and putting your fingers in your ears is not a very dignified way for someone of your "stature" to act when challenged by someone of my meager status. And it pays to be careful in regards to calling people names...sometimes people take that crap seriously. Notice that I don't call people names? Its easier and a lot more fun to disassemble them politely.

Banned, oh me....I guess next on the list is where you go and alter all my posts to be more favorable to you eh?

Pierre

These are the posts that sent Deary Jeffery off the deep end. In order of posting, which by the way was in response to his attacking me out of the blue. He apparently has some anger issues he needs to work out. hehe...Pansie.

hehe...Jeffery for a guy who spent most of his debating time with me calling me names you sure play the part of a victim well. You sure you want to start it up again? You didn’t fare that well with your last attempt at having me kiss your ass. Matter of fact you simply gave up when confronted with facts. (apparently he didn't want to start it back up...hehe)

Don’t have the time to play now but not to worry I will be back.

Poor little victim....awww.

Pierre Legrand

Bill from InDC,

Exactly how have I made a big ass out of myself in this little exchange with Jeffery? I simply asked a question that should have been easy to answer.

Speaking as a New Orleans native with family still down in New Orleans I need to ask exactly what was it that Sheppard Smith said that has everyone here up in arms? Specific quotes if you have them.

Was he incorrect in stating that the people on the overpass did not have food and water? Was he incorrect in pointing out the dead body that was left out to rot? Was he incorrect in stating that there was no food and water inside of the dome? Did he get all of the story right? Nope. Do you think that all reporters should just keep quiet until they are absolutely sure of the entire story? Is there a point when anyone is absolutely sure of the story? Are y’all sure that there were no rapes inside or the dome? Are y’all sure beyond a shadow of doubt that there were no murders inside of the convention center?

For this question this group of geniuses jumped to all sorts of conclusion. And dear old Jeffery was reduced to calling me names instead of simply answering the question. I dont as a rule defend the MSM, not even Fox News but simply stated no one had reported on the plight of those people on the overpass. Shep did good by reporting it.

Is it some sort of allegiance test to the blogsphere that I condemn every single person in the MSM? I never went beyond the example of Shepard Smith simply because I never had time to watch television during the first week. I did manage to see him because he was on at work when I was in front of a TV. In the specific instance of Shepard Smith from what I saw he was providing a service.

What we have in the blogsphere is this taking sides crap as if there are sides. The left blames President Bush, the right blames the Media...holy smokes who knew it was that easy.

The left ignores the monumental incompetence of Blanco and Nagin along with various other public officials down here. The right ignores, and this is really bizarre since as a rule we conservatives are supposed to be suspicious of big government, the bloody bureaucratic incompetence of FEMA. Instead they focus on their old Nemesis the Media...well sorry to say fellas but why don’t you guys ask about Action Requests and the process that FEMA had for responding to those supposedly important documents? Why not ask what sort of filing system they had for keeping track of what sort of requests they were getting? While you are at it ask about how they acquire new products that could help them keep track of that sort of stuff? Do I believe that FEMA was equally to blame for the failures in NO? Nope, Blanco and Nagin are 65% of the problem. FEMA though is not unscathed.

I don’t as a rule read the left wing sites since I simply don’t have the time. But the rightwing sites were starting to get on my nerves because in their headlong rush to discredit the MSM they were minimizing the horror of what we saw down here.

We had the popular blog post about Facts of Katrina over at Gateway Pundit.

Where they laughed at the 10,000 figure that Mayor Nagin was said to have used. Yea 1,000 dead in a major US city is a LOT better, everything is just fine if we only lost 1,000. They didn’t think to ask about where he might have gotten that figure from. If they had they might have learned that 10,000 was the low-ball estimate postulated in estimates made years prior of a Cat 5 hurricane.

Where they laughed that hey Katrina was not the WORST natural disaster ever but the 7th. Wow, I feel a lot better now. Course they got that wrong as well. We are the 5th worst.

Where not finding piles of bodies inside the Dome meant that “hey things were peachy inside”...where not finding a 7 year old with her throat slashed all of a sudden made it likely that no rapes had occured inside the Dome. Which btw I have 2 doctors who claim they did. In one case it was apparently stopped short of rape and was merely an assault and the other was indeed a rape. But hey it was peachy inside.

Does that mean I believe that the Press was not complicit in another attempt to attack my President. Nope. But to pillar them for getting some information wrong when even the owner of this site cannot get his information correct sitting on his ass in Colorado is unfair. Witness his declaration that Shepard Smith should have somehow knew that the Red Cross and Salvation Army were denied entrance into the Dome, when the story didn’t come out until September 8. What sort of conditions prevented Jeffery from getting the story right? Floods? Looters?

Jeffery showing his reknowned empathy:
Poor people are starving to death!” on day 2 is obscene. Did he report that these people were told to bring 3 days worth of food with them when they evacuated? Did he report that local officials were blocking aid to the Superdome?

48 Hours in ideal conditions is the recommended maximum time to go without water. It was 90+ on the overpass. Telling people that they need to bring food and water with them for 3 days when they are walking is hilarious...and most of those on the overpass were walking through deep water. And Shepard Smith did not report that the local officials were blocking the aid because Major Garrett didn’t come out with that story till about 6 days later.

So tell me exactly what prevents Jeffery from getting the story right?

Pierre Legrand


Eric,

Interesting attempt to defend Jeff’s inability to live up to the standards he lays down for the “Legacy Media”. They are supposed to get the facts right in the middle of chaos but he is allowed a bye because...I simply don’t understand the poor dear. That excuses his getting a timeline wrong that he used to savage someone doing far more important work than standing on the sidelines whining. That timeline was one of his central themes in attacking Shep.

I have slogged through a tremendous amount of his “poetry” and much of it dealt with savaging Shepard Smith, How you can tell for certain that Hurricane Katrina coverage series He is by his own admission quite the clever guy...but not so clever to entice me to make my weary way through such a mountain of information when he cannot even get a simple timeline right in regards to Garretts report on the holdup of aid which Jeff used to attack Shep.

The focus I had was on Smith because in fact I was responsding to Jeff’s article that dealt mainly on Smiths failings as a journalist. Now Shepard Smith as far as I am concerned is not a top notch reporter. I am not overly fond of his mannerisms but I am not so arrogant to say that I would resent them if he was instrumental in highlighting my plight should I find myself on an overpass in 90+ heat with no food and water.

Whether my gotcha was effective or not, it does show a sloppiness that shouldnt be there for someone holding others feet to the fire. His timeline is wrong, Garrett’s report was produced days after Shep was on the Overpass. The sloppiness is further shown by his declaring that those people were told to bring food and water, not considering in his sloppiness their circumstances. But even more importantly that it was NOT the people on the overpass that were told to bring food and water...it was the people in the Dome. That advice was also absurd btw.

Thank you for playing.

Pierre Legrand


"News of Pandemonium May Have Slowed Aid"

Bill from INDC decides to add his wisdom to the mix...congratulating Jeffery for his brilliant debating technique and creative name calling, I guess Bill from INDC was impressed by Jeffery getting that timeline wrong or maybe he was impressed by Jeffery declaring that those people on the overpass should have brought their own water. Whatever, Jeffery is a "STAR"...hehe. Pansie

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